The brutal attack on two Polish lads who died in the hospital is the most clear example of the “dead end” of changes in Irish society. I don’t know what was the picture of the Irish society 10 or even 5 years ago, but the newspapers provide me the information about the scale of changes and the growing crime and brutality among the Irish society, especially teenagers. According to the Irish Independent (Tuesday 4 March 2008)?? knife crime in Ireland had?? risen 300pc in four years. The scale and the brutality of the crimes and attacks committed by the Irish teenagers is also horrifying. All the suspects involved in the attack on two Polish lads are in the age of 14, 15, 17 and 19. They youngest o them ?Äï 14 years old girl was arrested couple of days ago. The other four teenagers were held by Gardai being involved in a murder of 21 year old man near Grand Canal in Dublin.?? I remember many such stories that were described in the Irish newspapers in the last 2 years.
The nationality of those two Polish lads had probably nothing to do with the reason of the attack. There was probably no reason at all. The young thugs were just looking for trouble and looking for the target. How many thugs like the ones who killed my two compatriots are still walking down the streets of Irish cities and towns? According to the all crime reports that were published in the newspapers in the last two years I dare say there is many of them.
How many of the decent people ?Äï Irish, Polish, Lithuanian, English or other nations ?Äï have to be killed by young thugs to open the eyes of the Irish society, Gardai and the politics?
Some of the readers of my blog are cross with me?? becasue of my opinions (that are critical sometimes) about Ireland and Irish people that I present on my blog. Many of them always complains on my compatriots. It is true ?Äï we are far from perfect, and there is many Polish troublemakers in Ireland for sure. You can believe or not in the stupid rumors that we hunt swans etc (swans are not in Polish menu), you can accuse us of making troubles, taking your jobs etc. but why many of Irish turn the blind eye on the growing problem of crime and brutality in their own society, or maybe the 300pc rise of the knife crime is also our Polish fault? The crime among the teenagers is really big problem. Can you imagine that those teenage thugs will be adults one day?
By the way, in the same issue of Irish Independent there is more crime stories: one is about 27 years old man who killed his girlfriend and another story is about two mothers who hid cocaine in the childs’ buggy and about the shootings in Limerick.
Have you seen the great film ?ÄúBoondock Saints?ÄÌ? Do you remember the first scene in the church and the homily of the priest?
“Of course we must fear evil men, but there is another evil that we must fear more?Ä? and that is the indifference of good men.”
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Paddy In Poland has drawn my attention to the interesting news on Thenews.pl about one Polish emigrant who addressed the need of making the Polish language the 3rd official language of Ireland (link). The guy who’s name is Marcin Wrona said that: “We are the most numerous ethnic group, hence we should be granted more rights, like, for instance, the right to use our mother tongue in offices“.
What can I say. Only that I can not believe in such stupidity. I would like to admonish him that we - Poles - are more or less long term but temporary emigrants. In next 10 years most of us would be living in Poland or somewhere else, but probably not Ireland. In that case demanding more rights - having in fact almost the same right like Irish - is completely lack of understanding the situation. His demands are completely childish, and should be regarded in that way. I don’t expect Poblacht na hEirean to introduce Polish language as a 3rd official. The cost of that would be enormous - translating all of the official statements, all of the official signs etc. and for only temporary period of roughly 10 years? Of course many of us will stay in Ireland for longer period or forever. Those who want to stay have to speak English and to integrate into Irish society. Of course they will never be Irish, but I mean to be part of one multicultural Irish society and not to be behind of the wall of ghetto.
Most of readers of my blog - both Irish and Polish - know well that majority of Poles in Ireland is living behind the ghetto wall built of lack of knowledge of English among Poles, that gives lack of communication with the Irish, and further - indolence of many of them to learn English, since at present almost everything in Ireland is translated to Polish already. In fact - Poles in Ireland don’t have to speak English at all, because all information is available in Polish. Majority of Poles in Ireland mentally is still in Poland, they are in Ireland only 8 hours a day at work. After that they are back in Poland, in Polish shops, in their homes - where everybody speaks Polish, where they have Polish satellite TV and Polish internet. I don’t blame them, since - as I wrote before - they are going to stay not for long, and… the situation makes them lazy - it is enough to speak Polish in Ireland, so they don’t need to learn English. However this is a ghetto. There are some negative stereotypes about Polish among the Irish, there are also growing slowly negative attitude to Poles among the Irish. Sitting behind the wall of Polish ghetto, which now is strengthen by those negative stereotypes and attitude of some Irish won’t make any good. Mental ghetto with walls built of Polish language will make a big harm to Polish emigrants in Ireland sooner or later.
The attitude of that man - Marcin Wrona - is a clearly example of the attitude “when somebody is giving you a finger you want to get a whole arm”. I am very sorry for him, his lack of understanding real needs of Polish society that are education in English language and destroying the walls of Polish ghetto rather than building these walls higher and higher and making a 2nd Poland behind them.
I will never be Irish and I will always be Polish, but in Ireland I am Polish member of Irish society, a man who communicates in English, who reads Irish newspapers, who is interested in all the aspects of life in Ireland.
I am completely against the ideas of Marcin Wrona. In Ireland we should be able to speak at least English. I say NO to any attempts to rise the walls of Polish ghetto.
and I hope that I am not the only one Polish person who is against Polish ghetto (or 2nd Poland) in Ireland.
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More than 1 year ago, on my blog I asked the question “is Gaeilge the Irish Language?”. I have found only a few people who could speak Gaeilge and among them only 4 or 5 were speaking Irish in the daily life. The only city in the whole Ireland where I could hear Irish on the streets was Falls road, West Belfast. For us - Polish - language and history are most important elements of our national identity. So even after my 1,5 year of staying in Ireland I can not understand why Irish people don’t take care about their (or at least grand sons of the Gaelic population) own language. Of course I know all of the stroy about famine, extinction of the Gaelic population of Ireland and the massive emigration to America. Further, I know that it was much more needed to learn English than Irish, since people could emigrate to other English countries (I mean the language spoken). I know that Irish language was forbidden for centuries. It is all clear. However I found that in general Irish society doesn’t care about their language. At present “Celtic Tiger” is the leading European economy and power, and this is the time when you - Irish, could think about bringing back to life Gaeilge, but unfortunately , almost nobody is interested in that.
Thanks to one of the users of newly opened Irish-Polish discussion board I found a great film story by TG4 about one Chinese lad who learnt Irish and came to Ireland, and he was rather disappointed since he didn’t speak English at all.
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Problem of mass migration from many countries of Europe and World into Ireland can bore, and already born negative opinions among some Irish nationals. It is quite obvious when quite a small country is facing a massive migration when the non-nationals are about 10 pc of the whole population. I - as an emigrant - have been always of the opinion that we - Poles - rather should try (at least) to integrate in some part into Irish society than closing ourselves in Polish ghetto, which is more or less a reality. I have been always against some typical behaviours like speaking Polish when at least one person is English speaker, behave ourselves - following the idea, that every Polish person abroad is an ambassador of our country, and ambassador of all of us. I was the first to call the Garda when I met Polish drunken hooligans troubling in the centre of the town. However I am not of the opinion that we are all bad. We are the same like other nations, and what is very easy to see, we both (Irish and Polish) share many the same bad habits. Thus, I am of the opinion we are nor worse nor better than Irish - a nation of emigrants - as we are at present. Honestly I haven’t faced so far any strong negative attitude towards Poles apart some of the comments to my blog entries. Those comments were showing the typical post - emigrant attitude - “now I am the master in my own country, and you Poles are bloody emigrants”, luckily the number of such comments was limited only to a few. However, I have been getting some rumours about that an exact number of Irish are highly racist and intolerant to all kinds of emigrants. the good example was the racist feedback got by a black Mayor of Portlaoise. From the other hand, it is hard to judge all of those comments, because I am trying to image what we would say if we had a black, or just an emigrant councillor or mayor of one of the towns in Poland.
Anyway, today, while I was searching the net I have came up against the Irish white power, racist internet forum, and the thread titled: Is Ireland being made a part of Poland.
Check it out, and let me know what do you think about it.
P.S. At least, those “white boys” should appreciate our Polish work on Irish heritage. Polish archaeologists are the biggest group on all of the excavation sites in Ireland.
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For more than 1 year I have been blogging on Ireland, Irish culture, history, people, and of course on Polish emigration in Ireland. My opinions on many aspects of living in Ireland were appreciated by many Irish people, including journalists of Irish Examiner, Irish Independent, Irish Times, The Times, and many Irish radio stations (including “Last Word” on Today FM).
In my opinion the idea of conducting the blog on social political and cultural matters is to describe and express my own impressions, and of course my own opinions based both on experience and knowledge. I have never avoided any hot or touchy topic, including both good and bad things of Polish and Irish community, i.e. aggressive Polish trouble makers, crime in Ireland, or Irish history and archaeology. Also I have been trying to introduce Poland, and our current issues to the Irish society. Everything under 1 primary rule - NO TABOO.
Was I wrong or was I right. I think I was right, and I have proved that. My blog was nominated to the Irish blog awards in two categories, I have had lot of good feedback from many Irish people, and from Irish media.
Anyway.. like in every nation, there is a few Irishmen (or at least one - all the IP’s are from Limerick), who can’t stand any criticism about Ireland, especially from the foreign emigrant as I am. For them I am a public enemy no. 1 and they are trying to prevent me from expressing my opinions (doesn’t matter that at least 80% of them are good) about Ireland.
Here is the latets example, comment sent to many of my blog entries:
| Irish people should disregard the following webpages ?ÄúCarlow.Pl?ÄÌ, ?ÄúIreland from a Polish Perspective?ÄÌ and anything in general submitted by ?ÄúMacKozer?ÄÌ a.k.a Krystian, a Polish archaeologist working in the Carlow area. Krystian is responsible for orchestrating at least one attack on an Irish person in Carlow town, and for spreading racist anti Irish propaganda. He is responsible for segregating Pubs in Carlow town i.e ?ÄúNancy Whiskeys?ÄÌ in to a ?Äúno go area?ÄÌ if you are Irish. (please boycott this bar). I would be more than happy to answer any questions from the Carlow people about my comments and welcome hearing your storys concerning violence, intimidation, ignorance or racism at the hands of the right wing Polish community.beirishbuyirish@hotmail.com(Apologies for not signing off in my own name, but have already had violent threats from the Polish community) |
I don’t know about any attack on any Irish man orchestrated by myself, in fact I don’t know many Irish in Carlow. But if Mr beirishbuyirish claim that, there is no problem to report that to the nearest Garda station (Athy Road, Carlow).
Anti Irish propaganda? Read entire blog carefully and then decide. I am afraid there is more anti Polish (at least Polish state) propaganda.
Segregating pubs? LOL 
I am not the owner of Nancy Whiskeys - there are Polish Nights on every Tuesday and I am not in charge of that. I only put advertising banner or Carlow.pl 
And what is the most funny I am far away of being right wing
Do the nick names of the authors of such comments seems not similar? Let’s see: Be Irish Buy Irish (the latest one), Irish and Proud of It, The Irish Man. All those similar identities are from Limerick.
Good craic, isn’t it?
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