Comments on: Crime in Ireland: where do you go from here?

By: John

John — Sun, 25 May 2008 14:20:52 +0000

Well that looks like you have your final word on this.

It was tragic that two Polish men were stabbed to death in Crumlin.
Does this mean that Crumilin is a Ghetto full of vigilanties, I think not, but you have started up a racist fury ant then walked away from the facts.
The scumbags who carried out this act were drugged fueled thugs.

Under age and out of control.It could have been me or you who got stabbed, race had nothing to do with it.

The local people were totally behind the Polish people when this happened, there was a large mass held at the place and in the church.
There were many Irish people at the service.

I am also sure that there was a collection made to help with the funeral costs.

I saw a programme on TV with Ross Kemp exploring gangs, one section dealt with Polish gangs who seek out Foreign workers and give them a hiding,I hardly for a moment think this is typical of Polish people.

Though you deny that the Irish are open and friendly and imply the opposite.
Polish people have been welcomed with open arms, you got the same wages and holidays as we get.The majority of the Polish people accept that we are a fair people to work with.

Well its not OK with me that you twist facts and present the Irish as some kind of neo Natzi race, sure we have our nut cases.

But don’t paint verbal Swastikas on my door and walk away.

I don’t think anyone has the right to spread the idea that we as a nation are like the youths who killed your Polish friends.

Just as I would never presume that the Polish people are SS type killers.

By: st

st — Sun, 18 May 2008 14:40:58 +0000

please don’t forget how the irish were looked upon during the first waves of immigration to the states, or the uk!
they were “stupid, dirty drunks who fought all of the time.”
here’s some cartoons depicting the irish reputation::

early days

today

By: Leslie

Leslie — Tue, 13 May 2008 10:30:01 +0000

I know this is off topic http://www.lesliegilmour.com/index/2008/05/13/aer-lingus-rip-off/ it is about Aer Lingus and their new rip off policy with seat bookings - I thought it relevant here on your blog.

By: eddie

eddie — Sun, 04 May 2008 02:39:42 +0000

Tis shockin bout the poor Polish he he

By: eddie

eddie — Sat, 03 May 2008 14:02:06 +0000

You know you are absoloutely right Krystian, the “ghetto walls” are far to high now for Polish people to ever be a part of Irish society, i have seen the proof

By: DubintheDam

DubintheDam — Mon, 21 Apr 2008 11:44:11 +0000

I think the Irish need to search deeper as do most people’s and their societies to find the reasons and answers for social problems. Although violence is growing in most countries, it is not a problem devoid of good solution and policy.

The drinking culture is one element that increases violent crime, a too often resort to the use of violence to solve our issues be they historical, political or social is another. I’m proud to be a “fight’n Irishman”, but have the maturity and small wisdom to see one must always fight in a non-violent fashion. This mantra is not heard enough in Irish society or history.

I feel Irish society has become drunken in its stupor of new found wealth, an almost unavoidable dilemma considering how poor we once were. But as the more sober and impending years arise we should reflect and dispense with mere material pursuits and tackle issues such as Infrastructure, Sectarian mentalities, Alcoholism, Racism, Corruption, Conservatism, Classism and create the foundations for a society that is truly multicultural and socially progressive while most countries are beginning to ponder if such a society is ever really attainable.

And how do you start with this unobtainable Euthopia? You show your ethnic and foreign neighbours how much you really appreciate them, and you chastise those who do not. It is easy for a man to change the world…you just walk down the street and change it!

By: Twilight

Twilight — Sat, 19 Apr 2008 20:16:43 +0000

Society in general over here is getting more violent. An ‘underclass’ has developed. 10 years ago you’d have similar gangs, but they would have been much less likely to carry knives. The reality is that these thugs will look for any reason to choose a person as prey, doesn’t matter where you’re from or what you look like, as long as you’re different to them in some way.
In my eyes, if you’re working, you’re contributing. I think it’s justifiable to worry about the economy, but not to use Polish workers as a scapegoat. The reason why there are Irish names all around the world - we’ve gone to other countries looking for work, and for the chance of a better life. Besides, how many Dependants - retired people, pensioners, etc - are living abroad? What would it do to the economy to bring them all back?

By: Eddie

Eddie — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:46:33 +0000

Yup, sure we’ll just brush it under the carpet like usual John!

By: John

John — Thu, 17 Apr 2008 23:29:58 +0000

Look its time for a change of subject, unless you want this blog to desnd into a farce.

We all know the horror of what happened in Crumlin.
This could have taken place in Rio or Berlin, or even Sydney,

Mindless violence,

Lets not be sucked into the abyss.

By: Welcome All

Welcome All — Wed, 09 Apr 2008 15:02:21 +0000

Also Twisted Facts? The comment about having a polish guy around for dinner? What the hell was that - the most patronising pondering I’ve ever read. “Hi are you polish? Oh you are…eh do you want to come to dinner?”

The point I’d like to make on that, is that any polish or EE I’ve ever worked with have not made a single effort to mix or mingle with any of the rest of the office, they spoke polish to one another in the canteen and at do’s which ostracises everyone else. Its up to them to fit in and mix in, not us to patronise them.