Crime in Ireland. Garda needs to be armed.

A couple of times I mentioned Polish troublemakers in Ireland and growing numbers of Poles involved in crimes, fights and acts of vandalism. It seems there is no change for better or bad, but the problem touch not only Poles but all non-nationals from new EU countries, Russia, Ukraine and so on.

The aggressive individuals stand out especially during the weekends after the payday. You can find them in the bigger pubs and in the nightclubs (I am glad that they are not visit a smaller pubs). Groups of muscle men with the faces of “smartarses”. Some of them wear red t-shirts with Polish white eagle – they don’t care that being drunk and aggressive has nothing to do with patriotism and it is rather an insult to their compatriots. They are going to the nightclubs to meet girls (doesn’t matter Polish, Russian, Czech, Lithuanian o Irish) and to provoke “Irysów” (Irishmen in a Polish slang in Ireland) to show them who is the master here in Ireland. In the opinion of the aggressive Poles (or other Eastern European emigrants) – we are the masters and Irish are fools or dumbs. As I wrote almost year ago, non-national troublemakers don’t speak English enough to be understood properly , that usually prevents of fight. Usually… but not always, because Irishmen scallywags are not better (or worse) than Polish troublemakers, and if they are insulted they won’t let you wait for the reply. That’s why sometimes, in the passing of time, more often, we can see fighting in the front of the nightclubs. Last time I saw it on Friday night in Nenagh in the front of Maximus nightclub. There were Irish fighting versus some Easter Europeans. The two Garda officers that arrived at place were scarred and they were trying to talk to the fighters.

There is not only a problem with non-nationals. There is high crime rate among the Irish community itself. Let me mention a gang war in Limerick which is probably one of the most dangerous places in Ireland if not in the whole European Union (at least in my opinion). The explosion of the consumption of drugs make the gangs strong and very active. Most of the Poles in Limerick hadn’t met such problem before they left Poland. We don’t have people shooting shotguns on the streets in the areas almost completely off the jurisdiction of Garda and town authorities.

In some parts of Poland we have high level of crime, and mafia structures, but not gangs like in Limerick. Many of them (some of my friends too) were attacked at their places by a young gang members just because they tried to prevent them of i.e. pissing in the garden. Of course there is no witnesses and the investigation got stuck in place though the attack was recorded by cameras of the nearby gas station.

In my opinion there is a growing problem of crime caused by both Easter European emigrants and Irish themselves. It is probably the effect of the high consumerism – consumption style of life of nationals and its dark side – a growing drug market. It is also an effect of the clash of the native and alien cultures, especially both native and alien troublemakers.

The thing that made me think the most is a visible lack of Garda forces, especially in the towns like Limerick, and some areas of Dublin. I don’t know if Garda has something like American SWAT units, but it would be a good solution for some problems. The gang areas of Limerick and of other town are not so big, they are rather small, so the military action of Garda special forces should solve the problem, or at least prevent the gang members of committing crimes. If there is no forces like SWAT, then why don’t the government use the Irish Army against the mobs?

Another question is a role of regular Garda officers in the small towns like Carlow, Nenagh etc. There is a number of fight during the night at weekend. Maybe police forces should be armed to be respected by drunken troublemakers, because at present the picture is both funny and grim. Garda officers fear the troublemakers and they don’t fear Garda at all.

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64 Responses to “Crime in Ireland. Garda needs to be armed.”


  1. 1 simon

    There is garda http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Response_Unit_(Garda)

    They are patrolin moyross i believe

  2. 2 Primal Sneeze

    “Irysów”. I haven’t heard it before. Is it bad, MacK? Or is it just a play on words?

  3. 3 Chris

    Give the people right to be armed, not only Garda, so the problem will be solved. And introduce private property in such extent, that also streets and parks will be private. Then it will be in the best interest of the owner to punish such troublemakers or not lettign them in at all to earn money from normal quiet people. In other case the people want come to such angerous places, owners will lose money, and they will be bought by someone willing to ensure peace for customers

    PS1.
    “Irys” - hm, came from Irish, is not bad Primal Sneeze. It’s just a plant, flower. I would say, it’s nice nickname for Irish people. And “Irysów” is just a plural form in polish genitive.

    P2.
    I saw Garda in Dublin, in the main street crossing, over the river. They were very nice, not even trying to punish people crossing the street on red light.

  4. 4 Chris

    And of course Irys is iris.

  5. 5 Primal Sneeze

    Simon: I suspect you meant to say “There are Gardaí … http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_Response_Unit_(Garda)

    They are patrolling Moyross, I believe”. If you are unable to write in English, Irish or Polish I suggest you stay off this blog, and all others.

    Chris: I too looked up “Irysów” on the Internet and found it to mean “iris”. My question was if whether or not it had a deeper or more subtle meaning.

    Krystian: Your website seems to be attracting quite a number of bigots. (Not just this post). As I expected it would. (Actually, I think you may be enjoying it - It proves a lot of what you say). Keep it going, a chara. Bain sult as!

  6. 6 Ullasmann

    A chara.

    Armed police ? Never ! Why should the poor suffering Irish have to give up this rare privilege in order to deal with this imported Polish problem ? The Germans wouldn’t tolerate these shenanagens for more than 5 seconds. That’s why they didn’t let the Poles in in the first place. Give the Poles an inch and they’ll want a mile is what the Germans have learned from the mass immigration of Poles into the Ruhr area at the beginning of the 20th century. And the poor gullible Irish are also going to have to learn this hard won lesson anew. So with Polish trouble makers, the answer is clear … Slän abhäile agus Gute Heimreise.

    Is mise.

    Alfred Ullasmann.

  7. 7 mackozer

    Ullasmann… the text concerns not only Poles, and not all of them but the troublemakers. Half of my text concerns gang war in Limerick and the Irish troublemakers. Do you believe that it is a problem imported from Poland? If so , then let me remind you which county used to be a greatest exporter of murderers and troublemakers with the permission and support of almost whole nation, it was in the middle of 20th century. Giving an arguments about emigration of Poles to Rurh in the beginning of 20th century is pointless, coz I can write a 1000 of pages about SS and Wehrmaht crimes, KZ’s, deathcamps, ghettos etc.

    You wrote: give to a Poles an inch… so let’s look what about the Germans and Czechoslovakia in 1939. Isn’t it works the same about Germans?

    The other thing - emigrations you reminded - Poles that emigrated to Rurh at that time they were a citizens of Deutsche Reich from as you call it West Prussen - a west part of Poland and from Śląsk - Schlesien (south west of Poland, a former land inhabited by both nations). Being a citizens of Deutsche Reich they were allowed to travell and to settle in every part. Moreover there was a pressure from the German authorities to move Poles out of their land to other parts of Germany and to make Greater Poland / West Prussen region more German than Polish.
    The 2nd emigration to Germany is a slave laborers during the 2nd World War - as you Germans used to say - expanding lebensraum and clearing the Central Europe of the untermenschen. During that time, many Poles where sent to Germany as a slave laborers and others were forced to sign the volksliste (to be a native local German, and not Polish anymore) under the gun sticked to the head or under threat of sending whole family to concentration camp (KZ). There are old Poles in Ireland which during their youth were send to the Germany as a slave laborers and after the war they moved to Ireland.
    In the economical crisis of 80ties (during martial law) children of them (who signed volksliste) pulled those war shame papers out of the drawers and emigrate under the policy of returning to Heimat. That was the 3d wave of emigration to Germany.
    There is another thing which makes me uncomfortable - the words “Polish problem” that reminds me very much words “Jewish question”.

    As you can see against your arguments I can pull out thousands. and it will be an internet flamewar…

    Moreover - you represent an attitude to Poles that is very similar to common opinion about Irish among many English people (but not all of course). So let me explain one… Irish emigrants have been regarded as lazy, dumb alcoholics for decades both in America, England and Germany as well, in the same way as some of Germans regard Poles.

    Be accurate and talk about the troublemakers and don’t start a stupid flame war here.

    Best regards.

  8. 8 Bock the Robber

    I didn’t realise I lived in the most dangerous place in Ireland.Thanks for letting me know. I’d better get out of here quick.

  9. 9 Chris

    Primal Sneeze: I know not only the internet translation of “Irys”. I speak the language over 30 years. And in Poland there is not such negative conotation (?) linked to word iris. I don’t know, what feeling or emotions do have Poles in Ireland calling Irishmen “Irysi”, though. Take care.

  10. 10 mackozer

    It is right. Word “Irys” hasn’t had only negative connotation so far. It depends on the context of comment. But the word itself is neutral and it is the name of the flower or candy (kind of hard toffee).
    but.. I dare say that People don’t consider the origin of that word.

  11. 11 Daria

    I’m from Poland, I was living in Ireland one year. I assure You word “Irys” hasn’t have negative meaning. It’s just a plant or fudge :) I think we use this word because in polish language word Irish man or woman is too long: “Irlandczyk”, “Irlandka” :) I know there are many problems with polish people in Ireland. Their behaviour is just like children behaviour. When I was in Ireland I wasn’t proud of my nationals people. I FEEL VERY CONFUSE BECAUSE OF THEM. but I’m not negating that this is only ours problem. I was living in a very small city in Ireland and I was going to small school (there was something above 100 students it’s a big difference for me, in my city in Poland I’m going to school where is above 800 students and there is 30 schools). I was discriminate at school, in pubs, at the city. I was discriminate because I’m from Poland. You know…that was the most horrible nightmare for me. Nobody wanted to help me, nobody wants to talked with me :( I was trying to get some contact with people but that was really big problem for me. BUT!! I’m sure there is in Ireland many people who still likes some polish people. People in Poland who are staying in Poland are different than polish people who comes to Ireland. You know why? It’s a simple answer. Everybody’s know that Poland is not a rich country. Polish people who comes to Ireland are getting chance to live like never before. Then they start to think “oh now I’m rich I can do everything” they start to think that they are “cool” and they are too much proud of their self :/ …I was lived in Ireland but moneys didn’t change my mind . I hope that situation in Ireland will get better.

  12. 12 Evert Bopp

    It’s a price that we are all paying for a government that ahs thrown all caution to the wind while chasing the fast buck.
    The majority of the Irish population is involved in a feeding frenzy without any regards for the side-effects.
    A huge increase in wealth will create all sorts of social issues. Ignoring it will not make it go away.

    E.

  13. 13 vladek

    I agree with Mackozer’s opinion. Well, except I don’t find Limerick so dangerous to live in. It is true, there have
    been a few incidents around, including shooting etc., but as I was told once - they won’t attack you for nothing. So, if you stay away from trouble, you’re reasonably safe. As much safe as anywhere else, I guess. I came to Ireland in 2004, never had any problem in a pub or any public place since.

    As for the foreign troublemakers - I believe there could be some rules issued by the government, say, everybody’s got one chance - nobody is perfect after all. But if you keep on causing trouble - go back to wherever you came from. Now, I’m not sure how to do it legally, but I think there is a way of getting rid of such troublesome guys. And the rest of imigrants here will be truly grateful for that, believe me.

    Mackozer - I’m impressed with your knowledge on the subject of emigration
    and your unbiased view. Thanks for that,
    buddy.

    Primal Sneeze - the word ‘Irys’ (gen. pl. ‘Irysów’) meaning an Irishman is still
    fresh, I mean it does not have any deeper good or bad meaning. I suppose it will take a few years to find out and it will depend on how well we can get together. And the reason that word has been made up is truly the length of original ‘Irlandczyk’, with no offence meant. ‘Irys’ is still just a slang word, anyway.

    Ullasmann - my grandma was German. I could hear German language around the house I lived as a kid. Always tried to convince Poles that not all Germans are nazis. Always tried to convince Germans not all Poles are thieves and alcoholics. Being a Pole, German or Irishman does not imply that you are this or that. Morons, thieves, alcoholics and xenophobes are truly international.

    Forgive me my spelling and grammar mistakes, still learning.

    All the best.

  14. 14 cristian

    The situation is very simple.Is all about the money as a simbol of material and social power ideal.This has been a problem since the beginning of human kind.Bouth The Irish Gouverment and the Emigrants wich are using eachother.The lack of education,the need of power,the stupid egos,the inferiority complexes, the frustrations they all have the same source.

  15. 15 Irish and proud of it

    How dare you call my city of Limerick the most dangerous city in europe.Who do you think you are. You come to my country and slag off my city.If you dont like it, then please leave.

  16. 16 mackozer

    Fine :) I am living in Nenagh, not in Limerick :)

    Who dare? Myself. This blog is titled: Ireland from a Polish perspective”
    You don’t want to read my opinions about Ireland? then please leave :)

  17. 17 Irish and proud of it

    Chris Says:
    January 27th, 2007 at 6:22 pm
    Primal Sneeze: I know not only the internet translation of “Irys”. I speak the language over 30 years. And in Poland there is not such negative conotation (?) linked to word iris. I don’t know, what feeling or emotions do have Poles in Ireland calling Irishmen “Irysi”, though. Take care.

    The same as Pols being called Polaks here.

  18. 18 mackozer

    Oh yeah.. you are really confused about all Poles :) Let us know what so bad bloody Polaks have done to you?

  19. 19 Irish and proud of it

    mackozer Says:
    February 21st, 2007 at 11:05 am
    Fine I am living in Nenagh, not in Limerick

    Who dare? Myself. This blog is titled: Ireland from a Polish perspective”
    You don’t want to read my opinions about Ireland? then please leave

    Then I am sorry to say you leave a very bitter taste of the Polish in Irish minds. Polish and Irish the same, No bloody likely.

  20. 20 mackozer

    On my blog I am describing good and bad sides of Ireland and Irish, the same as bad and good side of Polish emigrants.

    No taboos. It seems you would like to read only a laudatory opinions about your country and your nation. It is not like that. I am describing what I see, good and bad things.

    For sure we Irish and Polish are not the same… I have never claimed that. Being the same it would be very boring really.

  21. 21 Irish and proud of it

    Fine I am living in Nenagh, not in Limerick .

    Well I hope you don’t go slagging off the good people of Nenagh. Because if you do you might find the other side of us Irish is a side you don’t want to raze. The British tried it once and you have seen where it got them

  22. 22 Irish and proud of it

    No taboos. It seems you would like to read only a laudatory opinions about your country and your nation. It is not like that. I am describing what I see, good and bad things.

    You are talking about my city, the city I love.
    I don’t go around slagging off your city or your country. I think you need to apologize to the Limerick people.

  23. 23 mackozer

    No way ;) I described what I saw, and what happened to my friends.

    Now I am sure of that you are the person who is not willing to accept any kind of criticism about yourself.

    So explain to me the above threat? I would not rather write the Limerick is dangerous and there is a gang war?
    Why not? You will come and shut me with a shotgun?

    And explain me why describing a bad sides of Ireland should be banned? Is it because a hundred years of British occupation? That’s why you are untouchable?

  24. 24 Irish and proud of it

    Well it just goes to show that what I say is right. Polish people have closed minds. Maybe the wounds of the second world war still run deep. You people have a lot to learn about us Irish and yes we have crime and all that goes with the so called Celtic tiger. So my advice to you and you fellow country men is to take heed of what has happened here, as Ireland has become rich And learn the lessons that money does not bring you all that you want. Being in Europe is not that’s it’s cracked up to be.
    But please do not slag my City for the few ill it has, there is no war.
    I do accept criticism, but not from someone who knows noting of our history and culture.

  25. 25 mackozer

    It seems you have not read my opinions carefully.

    To be honest… your opinion is much more closed minded than mine. You have just shown your attitude as… what you Poles can know about Ireland. I know quite much. And please don’t be silly, I know how it works when the country is becoming rich so fast and Ireland is a good example of that process.

    We have been in Europe from the begining. It is just closed mind to regard Europe as EU.

    I am still of the opinion that you don’t accept criticism, especially from a Pole, because who is he.. just a f..ing emigrant from a poor country somewhere in the East.

    Yes man.. we had electricity and TV before 1989 and even I have had a computer since 1986.

    History is a history it is not an excuse.
    and since you have no arguments you can only threat me as you did above.

  26. 26 mackozer

    And as I am an archaeologist who is dealing with Archaeology of - let me call it - North Atlantic province I have to know quite much about history of Ireland and its culture.

    Don’t take it as a exalting, but I met Irish people who known about Irish history less than I.

    It just seems that you assume, no bloody Polish emigrant - as you call as - Polak - can know nothing about Irish history and culture, in the meaning : is not allowed to know anything about Ireland and is not allowed to discuss and to express his opinions and reflections.

  27. 27 Irish and proud of it

    what you Poles can know about Ireland. I know quite much.
    I am still of the opinion that you don’t accept criticism, especially from a Pole, because who is he.. just a f..ing emigrant from a poor country somewhere in the East.

    If you did you would not make such comments.
    As for playing the ” poor emigrant card”, give me a break. Do you see the tear welling in my eye. You know how to play the game to. We don’t need outsiders telling us what we need, be they Poles, Brits, or any other country for that matter. We have given you a job here so please have some respect

  28. 28 Irish and proud of it

    It just seems that you assume, no bloody Polish emigrant - as you call as - Polak - can know nothing about Irish history and culture, in the meaning : is not allowed to know anything about Ireland and is not allowed to discuss and to express his opinions and reflections.

    When is Rome, do as the Romans do.

  29. 29 mackozer

    Respect - you mean be quiet :)

    To be honest.. you haven’t gave me a job,
    and there is many Irish who welcome my opinions and reflections, so who gives you right to say “we” ?

    Rome? Ok, I have been encouraged by many Irish people to conduct the blog and to write my opinions about Ireland, Irish, Poles and emigration.

    So? :) It seems that your word “WE” is divided to many opinions and point of view.

  30. 30 Irish and proud of it

    So name them.

    I doubt Irish people would encourage you to slag off a people’s city.

  31. 31 mackozer

    Let me summarize your comments.

    First.. you blamed me that I express my opinions being a person who is not familiar with Irish history and culture.
    But it is not like that. I am familiar, moreover I am dealing with Irish history.

    so…

    You changed your mind, and then you claimed that I am not allowed express my opinions because I am emigrant.
    So who is playing on “emigrant card”?

    Finally

    I gathered all of your comments on my blog. Sometimes they have nothing to do with the context of my blog posts. Like for example post on “pancake tuesday” or asking me “am I proud of Polish president” in a comment to my post where I expressed clearly that I am not at all..

    It is a clear proof that the problem is not a being familiar with Irish history or not.

    The problem is the status - emigrant :)and probably Pole.
    I guess you had bad experiences with Poles, and now you just can’t stand that there is a Pole who dare to express opinions about Ireland.

    I also guess you have experiences of being an emigrant too… I know from the Irish history that many times Irish emigrants were not respected in example in US, UK or Germany.
    Maybe that is the answer of your attitude.

  32. 32 Irish and proud of it

    guess you had bad experiences with Poles, and now you just can’t stand that there is a Pole who dare to express opinions about Ireland.

    I also guess you have experiences of being an emigrant too…
    The answer to that is no. I have some good Polish friends and have had very good talks with them on their lives and how they like Ireland. They fear for their country men and condemn them for not integrating. They would never slag off Limerick as they live and work in the area. We enjoy a few pints in the local bar together and often sing Polish and Irish songs. We all make our point of views without condemning each other for them.

    I know from the Irish history that many times Irish emigrants were not respected in example in US, UK or Germany.

    With over 70 million Irish Americans in the US I think we are respected now.We dont have monkeys on our backs.

  33. 33 mackozer

    anyway… you are posting comments full of dislike to Poles, the comments that have nothing to do with the content and context of the post you comment. Could you explain your completely stupid and pointless comment on http://www.drakkart.com/eire2/2007/02/11/president-of-poland-is-going-to-visit-ireland-on-february-the-17th/

    And you didn’t answered me who is playing on the emigrant card.

    What is the real reason you would ban non-nationals to express their opinions if they know Irish history and culture, moreover they are dealing with that.

    What is the real reason they shouldn’t?

    As far as Irish emigrants are concerned, I have many Irish friends who claim they were not respected while they were working abroad. Are all of them are liars?

  34. 34 mackozer

    and as for Poles, I presume, you call your Polish friends “Polaks” :)

  35. 35 Irish and proud of it

    anyway… you are posting comments full of dislike to Poles,
    Where?

    As far as Irish emigrants are concerned, I have many Irish friends who claim they were not respected while they were working abroad.

    I have worked in many countries in my life and was never disrespected. But then again I never slagged off their Cities.

    And I would never disrespect my Polish friends.
    Me thinks you are very angry inside. All that metal music you listen to might do that to you.

    I think the statement, “the pot calling the kettle black” would suffice here.

  36. 36 mackozer

    http://www.drakkart.com/eire2/2007/02/11/president-of-poland-is-going-to-visit-ireland-on-february-the-17th/

    http://www.drakkart.com/eire2/2007/02/16/pancake-or-doughnuts-thursday-or-tuesday/

    All of your comments to those posts are pointless and actually have nothing to do with the real content and context of my expresses. Especially your post concerning Polish president.

    You wrote for example:

    “Are all Pols like this?. If so ,please do not come to Ireland as you are not welcome.”

    C’mon lad. Where are your Polish friends? If you have one or two you would not asking such stupid questions.

    Moreover in the post you commented I expressed my point of view on that problem so if you have read my text you wouldn’t ask such stupid question.

    I am not angry ;) I am happy here in Ireland, especially due to that I know my blog is nominated to the Irish Blog Awards, I got lot of positive and REASONABLE ;) feedback.

    Mentioning music is just another proof you have no arguments and assuming I am angry because of listening metal music, make me Rolling on the floor and laughing :)

    At the moment I am listening very heavy metal band Clannad ;) I have been their fan for 20 years :)

    Anyway.. In my opinion you have a complex of inferiority of a former emigrant, who is not able to accept any critical opinion about himself and his town, from a present emigrant.

    I am very interested what will you blame next :) Maybe Clannad is bad as well ;)

  37. 37 Irish and proud of it

    As i said “the pot calling the kettle black”.

  38. 38 mackozer

    As I said you have no reasonable arguments.

    And let me remind you there is only one angry person here, and it is you.
    You are angry on me, due to my opinion about Limerick.

  39. 39 cristian

    best blog

  40. 40 Irish and proud of it

    As I said you have no reasonable arguments.

    And let me remind you there is only one angry person here, and it is you.
    You are angry on me, due to my opinion about Limerick.

    Yes, I am annoyed at you. You are a guest in my country please behave as one. My argument is reasonable. Your view of my city is wrong and you need to take the log from your own eye before you take the speck from mine. Bye the way my Polish friends are disappointed with your views. They say if you cannot take criticisms of you own views then don’t make them.

  41. 41 mackozer

    The same to you. My Irish friends - the blogers too, are disappointed with your persistance and inferiority complex.

    At least they are real :)

  42. 42 mackozer

    more over you are not answered any of my questions. Thus you proved my thesis’

  43. 43 Irish and proud of it

    Thank you for answering my question. Thus proving me right.
    Done and dusted.

  44. 44 Irish and proud of it

    In future if you have something bad to say about my city or country ,
    raise your hand………….

    and place it over your mouth.

  45. 45 mackozer

    Fortunately you are not a owner of whole Ireland and you have no right to judge opinions of other people. Remember that.

    And say hallo to your imagined Polish friends and ask them the same question you have asked in your comment: are the all Poles are the same as our president :)because you seem forgot to do that.

    I am still of the opinion that you have no Polish friends, moreover, you are against us, and your comments to my posts are good example of that. I provided links to them above - and you didn’t answered those accusations.

    I am not blaming you, because I am also critical about some of the Polish people, and your attitude can be understandable.
    But please, don’t lay to me that you like us ;) If you had liked us, you wouldn’t write some stupid comments about Poles on my blog.

    I am also of the opinion that you have a complex of inferiority of a former emigrant who was treated exactly as an emigrant (not equal I mean), and now, when you face emigrants in Ireland you expect them to behave like you did. They can’t say anything critical about Ireland, even if they are familiar with Irish culture and history. They can’t only because they are emigrant.

    But what is your comments? only threats and pointless accusations.

    I am also of the opinion that you are kind of persistent Internet maniac who feed himself with kinda of pointless war like that.

    We have freedom of speech, and Internet is free, so you are not forced by anybody to read my opinions, but you seem to find a pleasure in that - a pleasure to be annoyed?

    Let me use your words from your first comment. You wrote: If you don’t like it, then please leave.
    So.. if you don’t like my opinions, and they make you annoyed, then don’t read them.

    At least I can help you not to be annoyed by preventing you to read my worthless comments about Ireland. Then you will be happy ;)

    Think about it…

  46. 46 al

    Thanks to ‘Irish and proud of it’ for that wonderful display of idiocy. Polish immigrants have as much right as the rest of us to point to Limerick and say it’s a feud filled kip of a place. Frank McCourt earned a decent crust out of pointing out it was a kip, and he wasn’t asked to shut his trap.

    As to ‘proud of it’s supposed Polish mates - they must be pretty tolerant to put up with his xenophobic bitterness. No-one needs to listen to your ‘advice’ friend, and you speak for no-one but yourself.

    Great blog btw - and lovely photos.

  47. 47 vladek

    Well, I guess Limerick is a place big enough for many people and many different experiences. As I said before, I’ve never had a bad experience on my own (while living here for over two years now). Of course there will be people who’d been in some kind of trouble, it’s inevitable with thousands of people living together.

    I believe it is possible to express one’s opinions and still not offend anyone. And I’d say that’s what Mackozer did - I don’t
    think he offended anybody by saying that there are dangerous places in Limerick. You can find them in every city - and the best thing is not to go there. And I believe that
    he sees good sides of living here too - if it wasn’t so, he probably wouldn’t be here now, right buddy? So no need to take it too hard when somebody says what he/she does not like or is afraid of.

    Anyway, it’s a good thing we keep talking to each other (as long as we respect the other side to have their own view).

    All the best.

  48. 48 Slavo

    To: “Irish and proud of it”: You state that emigrants are guests and they are supposed to behave as ones, didn’t ya? How long should they feel as guests in Ireland? 4 years 5 years 10 years? Aren’t they allowed to make Ireland a new home? Im just wondering what your opinion is, because as you said there are over 70 millions American-Irish so they were allowed to became a part of the USA’s society. Why do you think Poles and other emigrants are not if you do. Cheers

  49. 49 noé

    Limerick is an extremely rough city. I have lived here most of my life, and while it is improving, there is a lot of violence. I don’t understand this “irish & proud” person’s opinion! Everyone is entitled to their opinion. This person is not a “guest” of Ireland. It ’s his/her right to work where he pleases in the EU and the rest of the world as he/she pleases, just as it is mine. It sounds so childish. There are so many lazy Irish/Limerick people living off the state all their lives, it’s refreshing to see people coming in and working so hard, and doing so well. Good for them!

  50. 50 ten

    “Irish and proud of it” - I am Irish and I live in Limerick. I enjoy it enough to stay here, but it’s big downside, is that it has more than its fair share of ’scumbags’.

    I realise that’s probably unpleasant for you to hear, and that’s understandable. But just because something pisses you off, doesn’t make it untrue.

  51. 51 Swav

    “Irysow” is a form of word “Irys” which means iris, a type of flower. It was also a name given to very popular toffee sweet. It is not rude, it is just like a nickname.

    As we trying to break cultural barriers here some not so nice nicknames we give to other nations.:)

    zoltki - (yellowees) about all asia men
    szkopy - germans
    pepiki - czech
    zabojady - (frogeaters) french
    makaroniarze - (pastaguys) italian

    the reason we have all houses build in bricks and stones - beacause wooden were burned during all wars

    we are good at smoking ham and sousages, like beer but it came from germany to us. We make Vodka. Best well known polish vodka is ZUBROWKA, (BISON VODKA). You can check if it is genuine. There should be one grass blade in the bottle. Normally we drink stright and after we drink juice - zapojka (afterdrink) - in seperate glasses

    Minimal area of our country during last millenium was 0 sqare meters. Maximum was 990 000 sq km.

    We have developed democracy in XV century. We have elected our kings.
    We have declared first constitution in Europe (first ever was in America)

    We haven’t have any colonies because we have had enough our own land.

    During fierce religious upsets in europe we were peacefully religiously tolerant. So many faith-refugees settled in Poland.

    We have restored our country after few centuries of occupation, repressions, mass loot of national treasures and culture monuments, germanisation and russification.

    Maybe someone will call Polish thieves. At least we don’t have instructions on city hall how to loot, and what to loot in our neibour’s country,as Swedish do. Most of polish cultural monuments are still in Sweden. Among them Copernicus work which have broken heliocentric idea of solar system.

    In restoring our country most help we have get was from Czar of Russia (absolutely unintended) That greedy guy established so high duties on fabric produced in germany that german and jewish investors started to build new factories in russian occupation zone. During that period our economical groth was higher then in British Empire. When next war started ( WWI) were prepared to regain our country.

    Years od occupation have given us good lesson of conspiracy. During las war Polish Underground State was fully functioning country, with government, parliament, forces. It was also providing education culture durring Nazi occupation. Polish Underground Army was consisting about 25 divisions. 380 thousands soldiers and officers. Polish Underground was well organized, it was responsible for capture and transport entire V2 rocket to Britain. For this achievemnet our butts were sold by Winston Churchill to Stalin who kept his filthy boot on our face till late 80s. Rest probably you know.

    Now I need a drink.

  52. 52 frank

    the gardai were an unarmed force when they were established to replace the armed british RIC and DMP forces.at the time of their establishment there first commissioner stated “The Garda Síochána will succeed not by force of arms or numbers, but on their moral authority as servants of the people”.The gardai stood as a symbol of the state in the midst of a viscous civil war(4000+ killed,12000 imprisoned) where roughly a third of the population refused to acknowledge the legitimacy of the new state.I think they should be able to handle a few scumbags outside a chipper without resorting to handguns if they managed to successfully navigate there way through the greatest irish conflict of the last century unarmed.
    ps.the Emergency response unit (SWAT)and the special branch (uzi carriers)are both armed

  53. 53 patrick

    Hi,

    Interesting web site.

    I am French.

    What I think about it:

    In france ALL gendarmes carry a weapon.

    ALL Policeman carries a weapon.

    They are trained.

    They use it.

    F A I R E N O U G H !

    You know it.

    You don’t fuck around.

    A R M T H E G A R D A

    Patrick

  54. 54 Kevin

    You all talk about polish, their behaviour, their attitudes, their manners etc, etc,, but you are such hypocrites as most irish people like eastern europeean girls better than irih girls. Why because we all knw who is more beautiful and who is more good in bed. So stop pretending that we are the best country on this planet.

  55. 55 mackozer

    Kevin, I suspect that the only hypoctitic person is you. You haven’t read my blog, apart of that one entry, and you claim that I pretend that Ireland is the best country on this planet. It is both stupid andy hypocritic, since you haven’t read any other entries of my blog. Read my blog, more than one entry, and then think about my opinion about Ireland.

  56. 56 Kevin

    mackozer i think you should go and live on planet mars instead of wasting people time by posting such ridiculous messages on here

  57. 57 mackozer

    Kevin, luckily we have freedom of speech, and nobody forces you to visit my blog. So if there is anybody who is wasting one’s time, it is you.

    Is mise

  58. 58 Kevin

    Yeah freedom of speaking sense and not bullshit

  59. 59 mackozer

    yeah, so you should be banned on every possible internet forum on blog. Judging and expressing opinions without any sensible argument is a great bullshit.

    You know how people like you are called? Internet trolls.

    Byes. No bullshit from you anymore :)

  60. 60 yobbah

    I agree with your opinion of Limerick. There are those here who like to pretend that Limerick is like any other city. But it has a large gathering of scumbags who don’t care or have any respect for others. try hanging around HMv on cruises Street. there are those here with a vested interest in promoting their city as dynamic and play down the crime that is rampant here. in the past two weeks i have seen two cars burnt out on the south circular road. cars often have their windows smashed on henry street and o’connell avenue. there are rapes and attacks that go unreported and i haven’t even reached weston or moyross yet!People in Limerick prefer to live in denial rather than confronting the scumbags that make a mess of this city allowing the bad estates to sink deeper into squalor and fear. limerick people should tackle it head on but they live in fear of the scumbaggery preferring to blame instead the Dublin Media for all their woes.

  61. 61 Sean O'Riada

    Dear Poles and other east Europeans,

    While Ireland does have some negative sides it has many very good sides. When you critisize it please be fair. I have been to Poland and many other east European countries many many times. Since the time it was part of the Warsaw pact. Poland has many strange laws which I do not see criticized for eg. anyone who ever visits Poland (even for one second) is obliged to maintain an address in Poland for any eventual legal proceedings otherwise the other side will obtain a verdict in default. Also insultinging the Polish president is a criminal offence.

    So, dear Poles while you are welcome to this ancient and wonderful land of which we Irish are proud and agree that things could be better please balance your criticism with the fact that our laws are fairer and you have a change to realize your full potential here.

    I wish all of you every success in Eire.

    Slan

  62. 62 mackozer

    Dear Sean.

    First of all, let me point you out that Poland lies in the heart of Europe. For your information - the edge of Europe is Ural Mountains in the middle of Russia. ;)

    You seems to be too much sensitive and having no distance to your homeland. On my blog I have been describing both good and bad sides of Ireland, since Ireland is very impressive and remarkable country as the others in the world, and as the other countries it is no Heaven on Earth.

    I have nothing against critical opinions about Poland as long they are based on sensible arguments, real experiences and facts, not on the imaginations and gossips.

    Try to take my opinions for good, I am not criticising Ireland just for fun. I really love that country, and through pointing out bad sides I am struggling to change it. It is strange to be proud of something trying to keep the blind eye on bad things… as you suggest.

    Every country has good and bad sides, and every country is extraordinary in some sense, and… let me remind you (I am archaeologist) every country is ancient… sometimes more ancient than Ireland… but I don’t see any insult to Ireland in that.

    So take it easy, and remember if I am pointing something out I am doing it with good intentions.
    Is mise.

  63. 63 R Hands

    I don’t care much about the bitching that’s gone on in the previous comments, but to return to your assertion that the Gardaí need to be armed. I would always say mediation first, and weapons as a last resort only on rare occasions. Let me give you an example of what I don’t want to see happening in our country:
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=-pkCSxw25Rg
    And if you did arm the Gardaí, most of those I know would quit straight away.

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